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Lucifer Morningstar ([personal profile] the_rebel_son) wrote2020-10-13 08:18 pm
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For the Love of the Fathers

Lucifer had withdrawn aside from official requests months ago. The angels watched and waited. It wasn't the first time their King had turned his back on the angels to dwell on some matter or another. As weeks turned into a month, and more, they started to whisper. Some had gone to Lucifer and been turned away. He was becoming short tempered, angry, and volatile.

Death listened in silence. He knew the reason but spoke no words of the matter. It was not his place nor did he know what the fallout would be if he spoke, creating a gulf in the family between father and children and between the twins was not something Thnisko wished to be responsible for. And he held silent from the shadows, often seeking out Deet's company to be free of the pain he felt from his father. She asked and he spoke of family problems with no specifics. She understood though and simply seeing a father bearing depression was enough of a reason in her eyes.

Today though when Belial and Lucifer had nearly came to blows in anger over a trifle matter Thnisko knew silence could not stand any longer. He debated internally about who to speak with and who might do the most good. There were things about this situation that required reservation, tact, and an ability to manage Lucifer when he barely wanted company.

Thnisko wondered if Balthazar already knew the situation, and if so, things would be more dire than Death expected. Still, that was who he sought out in the villa. He knew his other father was present. That is where Death headed, steps heavy with worry on many levels.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-14 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)
"It sounds...burdensome, to hear so much," he says quietly. "But it's good that someone's keeping track."

It doesn't bode well that he says he heard what happened, Balthazar thinks. In an ideal world, perhaps Lucifer would have confided in his son, or perhaps whatever this secret is is too much. He hums in quiet acknowledgement when Death mentions Dorian.

"We talked about him before, you and I. I kept half an eye on him since, when the opportunity arose, but that hasn't happened often. I didn't want to come across as jealous or possessive, but I'll admit, I never really liked the situation." For one thing, pursuing both a father and a daughter struck him as strange; an idea most humans would find uncomfortable, at least, if not outright taboo.

Actually, sometimes he thinks Lucifer's compassion might get the better of him, where mortals are concerned, and was inclined to think such might be the case with Dorian.

The nervousness coming from Thnisko puts him on edge even before he speaks again. And there's a delay in Balthazar responding to the revelation, because the words don't really make sense placed in the order they've been spoken in. Assaulted? How could a human possibly--

But then one of his own memories surfaces, a circle of flames kindled around him, a wave of outrage, fear, betrayal. Holy fire?! He hasn't thought of that incident much since, though he certainly nurses a grudge against the Winchesters for it, and to a lesser degree against Castiel for letting it happen.

Probably, a circle of sanctified oil cast ablaze was not involved here, if such a thing would even be effective against Lucifer, but there are ways. There are always ways. The universe is built with loopholes, tricks, and cheat codes.

"You're implying attempted rape," he says just above a whisper, ignoring the churning of his own Grace for the moment. "Was there magic involved?"
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[personal profile] thnisko 2020-10-14 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Belial and I are accustomed to our senses, though he has more opportunity to leave because of Nychta. Death has long since learned to ignore chatter and the normal sounds of a bustling household.

He nods in agreement. I've worried that it would put my father and sister at odds with each other or cause family problems, even if they were accidentally produced.

It felt good to say those words outloud to someone who was in a similar headspace. It takes time for Thnisko who is biting back his own rage. Death feeling this much agitation isn't safe and he knows he must calm. A few breaths and then he speaks.

Yes. I don't know if magic was involved. He admits and then sighs again while leaning into Balthazar. My father was moving toward trusting him and I'm not sure he was willing to wait for him to consent to submission. I think they fought for dominance and control of his person. He won't speak to me about it and I don't dare force it because he's still hurt.

Hurt was probably the best word for the broken trust that rippled out to his questioning of everyone. He can't speak to others. It's weakness and he's a king about to let the opposition into our ranks. I think Dorian blamed him for being assaulted and I think that has added salt to the wound.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-14 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"Perhaps I should have said something to him sooner," Balthazar says softly, mind and Grace still racing. "If I had asked him to distance himself for my sake..."

Maybe he should have been more jealous, after all, but he wasn't sure it was his place. He rubs the ring on his finger with the opposite hand, distractedly. Well it's damn well about to be his place, now.

He shivers, struggling with his own emotion, then abruptly turns into Thnisko and hugs him closer with wings and arms together, channeling his uncertainty into comfort. "I'm sorry. Overhearing that must have been awful for you, as well. I'm sorry."

His mind fires off in several directions at once. What does this mean for Sin? Is she in danger? Was this kink gone terribly wrong or a violent attempt to dominate and humiliate Lucifer? And if there was magical binding involved, he's going to need to find a counterspell, because even if Dorian never cares to make the attempt again, someone else could use similar knowledge to their advantage.

"I can see the problem," he murmurs after a moment, voice taut with distress. "He can't afford to look weak, but he can't let the news slip out to angels who'd lose their temper on his behalf, either."

Quite frankly, the idea of gutting Dorian is highly appealing to Balthazar right now, but he's still got his saving grace and he's far more worried about healing wounds than making new ones, even in the richly deserving.
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[personal profile] thnisko 2020-10-14 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You will drive yourself crazy thinking that way. What is done has come to pass but the future is still malleable. Death had learned to think that was about his own injuries. It was necessary for survival.

Thnisko returns the hug, his own huge wings working thier way into embracing his second father. Deet has taught him a lot about comforting others. He runs hands gently down the other angel's back. Many awful things have happened to my father and he endures. He will find a way to overcome this like the others but now he doesn't have to find his way alone.

Death trusted Balthazar, trusted him to care for thier family and his father when it was needed. Death lets out an agreeable sigh.

Moloch and Beelzebub are the most likely to act rashly. I know the newcomers to the family have had problems with Moloch but never forget he stabbed God in the back when he punished my father to burn. Death knew more about the angel of sorrow than most because he had come when Death had fell to despair after his injuries. He was cruel but there was a hidden compassion or justice deep inside that wouldn't tolerate a breach on this scale. He did instruct me not to tell my sister.

And he understood why. It might break her heart in ways that might be unpredictable and permanent. Is there anything I can do for you before you go to him?"

Death assumes Balthazar will soon be headed to the library where Lucifer bad been spending large amounts of time.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-15 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
It's certainly true that Lucifer has endured suffering beyond anything Balthazar has ever witnessed. But he wasn't here then. It's different when he feels as though he could have been around to prevent it. Thnisko's right, though. Stewing over it won't help any of them.

The hug is nice. He's always been physically demonstrative, but holds back a little sometimes for Thnisko's sake. This is a welcome reassurance, and maybe in days to come it will make it easier yet for them to be close.

"Oh, I believe you about Moloch. I didn't think much of him at first but after what Lucifer's told me...I think I understand better. Not sure he'll ever be friendly with me, but that doesn't matter so much."

He's quiet, but there's a ripple of agreement through his Grace at the comment about Sin. He's worried for her, and that's not going to change, but bringing up this incident really isn't his place. If anyone will have to, it should be Lucifer himself. "Mind you," he adds, "I'll turn every bone in that man's body inside out if he does anything untoward to her."

"...although I imagine I'd be fourth or fifth in line." He takes a deep breath and lets it out. He feels chilled and sick still, but stable enough for a hard conversation.

"If you were me," he asks Thnisko, "would you go for the direct approach or try to coax him into opening up on his own?"
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[personal profile] thnisko 2020-10-15 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Death isn't one to wish ill on others, not really. Even those who had hurt him didn't get wrath from him. However, this situation is different. His voice is both uncertain and a little sarcastic. It is wrong to wish it's Astaroth that finds out?

He could imagine a secret keeper chasing someone. He would unravel their lives. The anger gets a little extra tug into the hug. I would procure a bottle of wine and sit out of the way.

Death rarely showed humor but it was an outlet for the pain. My sister and I have three fathers. Birthed by Lucifer and Consort to Beelzebub; their reaction is expected but it could provoke our other father to retribution if she's hurt.

No one wants to think about Belial losing his temper. He leans quietly against Balthazar while trying to imagine what might be the best approach. None seemed right. I think it's more important that you approach how you always would. He's suspicious and anything off might cause him to retreat farther. You're important to him so be yourself.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-15 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
By contrast, Balthazar is painfully slow to anger, but vengeful once he gets there. He's already telling himself not to jump the gun, wait to hear what Lucifer says before fantasizing about doing anything unpleasant--already stomping on the emotional brakes, because once you strike a blow you can't take it back. But he may need to break some things later.

"Astaroth would take his time and be clever...I imagine that would be entertaining to watch from a safe distance. It's always the quiet ones."

Come to think of it, that observation applies to Belial, as well. Balthazar sighs and gives Thnisko one last squeeze before untangling himself, wings and limbs, in preparation to go look for Lucifer. "So, approach him clumsily and he'll inexplicably find me charming as usual? I think I can about manage that."

He gives the other angel a kiss on the temple. "Thank you. For coming to me with this. Trusting me."
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[personal profile] thnisko 2020-10-15 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
Astaroth collects and sells information. He would find his secrets and reveal them to others, of he didn't harass himself. Astaroth always appeared softer, friendly, but Death knew the potential of the angel under what he showed to others.

There's the sound of a quiet laugh over the mental connection but it is an affection sort of laugh. We have never seen him love so deeply.

Death pulls away to let Balthazar get up. You are family. That was all the reason Death needed to truth the other angel. I'll stay here and listen for you. In case you need help.

Death can't be sure what will happen but even if it is a silent telepathic ask for how to proceed he wanted to support Balthazar, to help his father.

Lucifer is in his library though he's not sprawled out in the upper level chaise like normal. Instead he is in one of the window sills with his knees pulled in. He has a book but he's mostly staring out at the garden. His mind whirling around the idea that the arrival of the celestials is only days away and he has someone around that seems desperately interested in hurting him. Though, he is glad that Dorian heeded his words about staying away.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-15 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Angels and gods of knowledge and secrets and lies are always to be approached with caution. Most of them have an impeccable poker face, in Balthazar's experience.

The reassurance makes Balthazar's Grace warm up, half shyly embarrassed, half pleased. Family is everything to him. For whatever it's worth, he's not the least bit afraid Lucifer will turn on him for prodding, even after the news that he's fought with Belial. That says a lot.

"Thank you, love. I'll let you know how it goes, later. Well. Anything you can't overhear, anyway."

He gives his shoulder a gentle pat, then retreats, heading indoors. Once inside, he has to pause in the hallway for a few moments to catch his breath and gather his thoughts, struck with mild anxiety. It doesn't take more than a minute or two for him to square his shoulders and make the trip to the library to find his fiance.

He makes no effort to hide his approach, but Lucifer seems so distracted he's not completely certain he's noticed him, at first. He clears his throat and comes closer, sitting next to the other angel's feet, studying him quietly.

"You're so pretty," he murmurs. It wasn't what he meant to open with, but something about the vulnerability of the pose tugs at his Grace. "With the light from outside reflecting on your hair like that. I know in your true form you're far brighter, but...there's something to be said for moments like this, too. Through the veil of the mundane; it would be so easy to miss it, but you make it shine from the inside out."
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-16 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
Balthazar's tastes in books are about 40% arcane knowledge and 60% sexy romance novels. He has several boxes of paperbacks in his flat, as well as space on the shelves here. Of course, a lot of the oldest forms of arcane knowledge are available only in scroll or tablet form.

It's reassuring, that smile. It seems that Lucifer isn't so defensive he'll turn his lover away. Balthazar readily moves close to him and encircles him with arms and wings, nuzzling softly into his hair. "I'd like that, darling. I'm sure Levi would be happy to spend time in the studio and let me wander untethered."

He takes a breath, wishing they could just continue on with this topic of conversation, then shrugs the nerves aside and takes the plunge: "I know you're under stress, and I thought it was better to give you space at first, but now I think different. What's happened? Please, tell me."

A soft, soulful plea that ripples all the way through his Grace.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-16 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"I do want to see it." He brightens at this suggestion, though he tempers that emotion immediately because he knows full well it's not a fun tourist spot. But being there for at least a short while is a necessary step forward in intimacy with Lucifer, and in responsibility with the other Fallen angels. "With or without my vessel?"

Levi, he thinks, would get no benefit out of visiting Chaos, but that's the human's decision, not Balthazar's. And it's also not the main matter at hand.

He strokes Lucifer's shoulder idly as he speaks, for the sake of soothing him. This is a delicate discussion and Balthazar is more concerned about hurting Lucifer further than about himself getting hurt. He nods at the statement, which is true, though it dodges the heart of the matter.

"I spoke to Thnisko," he says, because it's probably important that he be equally honest. "He implied that Dorian tried to harm you. There's a lot that I need to know, about what happens next. And I'm sure it's the last thing you want to talk about, but I also suspect you need...a shoulder."

"We don't have to talk about it here if you're worried about burning something down, but we do have to talk about it."
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-16 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"I never...understood," he admits slowly, "what you saw in him. But I didn't want to restrict you or be a jealous lover. You've given me reassurance after reassurance. I'm not afraid of sharing you, or of you losing interest, but I don't want you to take other lovers that don't respect you. You deserve better than that."

"So, for one thing, you can expect me to kick up a fuss, going forward, if you sleep with someone I don't approve of."

The wings around him are gentle but as encompassing as Balthazar can make them. He makes a little growling sound, between anger and anxiety with the situation. "But you must be confident she is in no danger, or you would have acted to keep him away from her, as well. Am I right?"
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-17 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"Ahh," he says softly. "You really are the superior Lucifer, then. I don't think the one in my world is capable of any kind of compassion any longer, let alone empathy."

He blinks at him when he turns his face to his. Here he was trying to be comforting and he gets comforted instead? He'd be lying if he pretended the wrath and power and mischief of the other angel have no allure to him at all, but this half-hidden core of sweetness is always going to be the aspect of Lucifer he loves best. "There isn't really anyone around I'm interested in sleeping with just now, other than you. That might change some day, or we might find others together, but either way, I don't want to cramp your style."

He smiles, and there's light in his eyes; he's sincere in this, and there's no emotional upset on his own behalf, only concern on Lucifer's.

"All right," he says softly, and strokes Lucifer's chest, trying to reassure him. "We'll talk about what we can do to protect her. She's my daughter too, now. And I'm sure Belial and I can come up with protection and warding spells no one short of a god could break."

"So for now, we'll focus on you. Did he use any kind of magic against you?"
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-18 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
It was fun. Moreover, it was a surprise to be harassed playfully by another angel, let alone one with such a terrifying reputation. That's the part Balthazar will always remember best, that mischievous grin and the delight Lucifer seemed to take in Balthazar's reactions.

Balthazar puts his fingers gently over Lucifer's lips. "You'll heal, and you'll meet others who actually are worth your time, and I will be right here every step of the way."

He settles into Lucifer's arms again, quiet for a moment as he talks. It sounds as though no Enochian circle or magical trap was used, and that's a relief, but he's increasingly confused as to how this dynamic between Lucifer and Dorian came about. "I need to know as much as you're willing to tell me, love. I know it's a hard thing to talk about, and I don't want to...upset you, but..."

But he needs this to make some kind of sense in his head, to decide how to go forward.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-18 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
"Oh," Balthazar says softly, "you're stuck with me forever, one way or another. Time will unravel and existence will be forgotten, but it won't change a thing between you and me."

He waits, patient and calm cuddled into Lucifer's arms, vessel passive and relaxed, but all his celestial eyes are open. He's watching the body language, the cosmic light and fire, the movement of Lucifer's Grace. It never ceases to amaze him how easily a mortal, limited being can strike at the emotional heart of even the most powerful. He's seen it in Castiel, and now he sees it in Lucifer, magnified tens of thousands of times. How are they so dangerous?

Drinking and opium, he imagines, exacerbated any potential problem between Dorian and Lucifer. He's a little surprised to hear this took place in front of the others. The dynamic must have been subtle. Maybe that makes it worse.

The shudder of mild shock when he says he let the man touch his Grace may be discomforting to Lucifer. There is no judgment in it, but the idea of letting anyone so close is frightening. There have been a handful of other angels he's touched that way, but aside from that, Levi or another True Vessel are the only ones he can imagine permitting so close. As if in response, his wings curl closer and his own Grace reaches out as if to twine around Lucifer's and protect it.

But that explains it, in a way. How it could happen with other angels so close by. How it was not a magical binding, but an emotional violation with the potential to turn physical. People find it all too easy to see Lucifer in terms of reputation, power, danger, glory, and miss the metaphorical beating heart, and aching scars, beneath. It's one of the things that burns him the most where the Winchesters are concerned. Seeing angels in terms of what they can do. Treating people--treating Balthazar's family--as miracle-dispensers, a means to an end, or mere nuisances to be defeated. If all humans were like that, he'd be happy to see their world come to an end, without pity.

But they're not. The soul flickering with worry inside the shared vessel is a blessed reminder of that. Levi isn't hearing this discussion, but he knows Lucifer is distressed, and he's concerned.

Maybe Lucifer can feel the flare of emotion in Balthazar's Grace in turn; anger on his behalf, frustration at selfish coldness of certain elements of humanity.

"It's not your fault," he says thickly, swallows hard and clears his throat. "They don't all have the capacity to understand that we're people. And you can't always teach them kindness by being kind, or fairness by being just."
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-18 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Lucifer's Grace is always intense to touch; it would be exaggerating to say Balthazar's gotten used to it. He's used to it in the same way a person can be 'used to' intense orgasms when they've been with a superlative lover for a long while. He can keep his head now, and not lose control of his vessel every time their Graces blend, but it takes him a moment to adjust mentally enough to refocus on the conversation.

It helps that he's not hiding anything, himself, any longer. Lucifer can doubtless feel the rage and hurt on his behalf, the bitterness related to Balthazar's own past experiences, and the need to do something to fix this, even in full awareness that it can't be fixed. It's always hard to see a loved one in pain.

"That's not quite what I meant," he says in response to Lucifer's protest, "but maybe I'm projecting from my own experience."

There's another little starburst of protective fury at Lucifer's next statement, and his wing-feathers rattle. "Why would he want to hurt you? I don't understand."

Mind you, that's definitely projecting. He can't imagine anyone wanting to hurt someone he loves so dearly. Even centuries ago, before he got his name, he had trouble with that concept.
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[personal profile] tryingitall 2020-10-18 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Freedom is a length of rope, Castiel's voice growls quietly in the back of Balthazar's mind. God wants us to hang ourselves with it.

He's floundering now. There's always been a subtle dichotomy to Balthazar; half childlike, hungry for love and reassurance, half the ancient, consummate warrior, weaponsmith and scholar. In the face of this unfamiliar sorrow and pain, his more delicate side is winning out for the moment, helpless and at a loss to understand what the point is, to taking something that is normally given so freely.

He doesn't say anything for several minutes. The kiss helps some; it's some reassurance, but jealousy isn't what Balthazar is suffering from, whether that was Dorian's problem or not. In the end, even if he was supplanted by another lover in Lucifer's arms, he would probably stay anyway. This is his family now. He's not willing to lose that a second time.

That thought solidifies him some. He can't change what happened or Lucifer's feelings over the whole mess, and it sounds like Dorian won't be in a position to make another attempt to harm him, ever again. He can't heal the injury, either, but he can do what he's always done. His Grace pulls closer to Lucifer's, opening up, and he murmurs, "I love you. I'd cut out my own Grace for you if you asked. You know that, don't you?"

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